tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post7251201229504176188..comments2023-10-09T12:07:17.858-04:00Comments on Lakewood Falling Down: The Hocker’s Strike Back! (Or Why I Hate Simcahs Torah)Lakewood Falling Downhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14483392684657880997noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-77235605356721445722009-10-08T13:32:58.101-04:002009-10-08T13:32:58.101-04:00so u coming to my shul this year?so u coming to my shul this year?Jacob Da Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15181930948956094882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-17144066653885813962008-12-29T12:58:00.000-05:002008-12-29T12:58:00.000-05:00MY GOD!!! Lighten the hell up you guys! sheesh you...MY GOD!!! <BR/><BR/>Lighten the hell up you guys! <BR/><BR/>sheesh you sound like a bunch of old grumpy farts!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-50195988567873101902008-11-19T10:38:00.000-05:002008-11-19T10:38:00.000-05:00I'm sure you don't really mean that you hate Simch...I'm sure you don't really mean that you hate Simchas Torah. Maybe you can make some suggestions to the board to try and change things for next yom tov.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-50657643148175530642008-11-06T20:42:00.000-05:002008-11-06T20:42:00.000-05:00re: No real food in most shuls on Simchas Torah ni...re: No real food in most shuls on Simchas Torah night<BR/>In Bais Halevy (see www.GoDaven.com) they had a warm kiddush by night!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-21158884867327746222008-10-27T21:55:00.000-04:002008-10-27T21:55:00.000-04:00Truly a kickass post! For the past decade I have ...Truly a kickass post! For the past decade I have been getting severe depression on Simchas Torah. By the time it comes around, after 2 days Rosh Hashana, Erev Yom Kippur and Yom Kippur itself, 2 days Succos, Shabbos Chol Hamoed (you get the picture) Hoshana Rabba, Shemini Atzeres - endless meals, too much time spent in shul in the company of dirtbags I would normally cross the street to avoid...<BR/><BR/>Why don't I change shuls? Coz I live in a small town and my choice is VERY limited...<BR/><BR/>But on the point of drinking, I recently discussed it with Rabbi Shmuel Kamenetsky (big pat on my back) and he agreed we need to get serious about the rampant alcoholism that takes the guise of being "freilich" esp on Simchas Torah and Purim.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367571291724934445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-82156865204760920352008-10-26T05:02:00.000-04:002008-10-26T05:02:00.000-04:00B"HI agree with you on all of the above.That's why...B"H<BR/><BR/>I agree with you on all of the above.<BR/><BR/>That's why I don't go to any "mainstream" minyanim.<BR/><BR/>Even in Meah Shaarim, there are a few wathiqin minyanim, where people can go, then not be held hostage all day before hearing the qeriyah and davening musaf.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-51675727296965453402008-10-24T00:12:00.000-04:002008-10-24T00:12:00.000-04:00LFD:"I'd love to actually see a Kol Korie on smoki...LFD:<BR/><BR/>"I'd love to actually see a Kol Korie on smoking. It won't happen any time soon, unfortunately."<BR/><BR/>it has happened. in 2006 the RCA's ועד הלכה issued a unanimous פסק that that smoking is אסור<BR/><BR/>and numerous individual rabbis have pronounced against it.<BR/><BR/>even rav moshe, whose פסק smoking advocates like to cite, forbade smoking in a בית מדרש (iirc)Lion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-234059738319167302008-10-23T19:19:00.000-04:002008-10-23T19:19:00.000-04:00Moshe- I'd love to actually see a Kol Korie on smo...Moshe- I'd love to actually see a Kol Korie on smoking. It won't happen any time soon, unfortunately.<BR/>The Hedyot- Yeah, I'm being a bit judgmental, but I should be allowed to give my own kids whatever I like w/o comments like "we don't do that here". BTW, you have an interesting site!Lakewood Falling Downhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14483392684657880997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-31628888042736353792008-10-23T17:32:00.000-04:002008-10-23T17:32:00.000-04:00How can you complain about people who dictate what...How can you complain about people who dictate what kind of candy other people can have (<I>"the hockers who tell you what kind of candy you are allowed to even give your own kids"</I>), and then right afterwards gripe about the current candy situation? (<I>"When I was a kid, we got peanuts, chick peas, sponge cake and a lollypop. Last year there was so much candy I thought my kids would go into sugar shock."</I>)<BR/><BR/>Sounds a bit hypocritical to me! (Yeah, I realize that you're not actually telling them what to do, but you're judging them just the same.)The Hedyothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15193083251783618457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-1405274237015555002008-10-23T10:50:00.000-04:002008-10-23T10:50:00.000-04:00Umm...try getting out of town? Seriously, the wor...Umm...try getting out of town? <BR/><BR/>Seriously, the world outside of the tri-state area can be a wonderful place.<BR/><BR/>Enjoy the time with your kids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-91369942137891573372008-10-23T01:03:00.000-04:002008-10-23T01:03:00.000-04:00No bidding in my shul on Simchas Torah.A couple sm...No bidding in my shul on Simchas Torah.<BR/><BR/>A couple smokers.<BR/><BR/>Dancing's more fun.<BR/><BR/>Hakofos not too long. Maybe at most 20 minutes and only during the day.<BR/><BR/>We have full kiddush by day. At night, we finish around 9 so cakes are enough.<BR/><BR/>Russian shul, no such thing as no drinking. If you even think about it while there you're suicidal.<BR/><BR/>My kid pretty much sticked to the cake.Ookamikunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01145237927656807738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-57013172219441360712008-10-23T00:49:00.000-04:002008-10-23T00:49:00.000-04:00LOGIC613:a few years ago on ראש השנה i was davenin...LOGIC613:<BR/><BR/>a few years ago on ראש השנה i was davening in my mother's shul and got into an argument with a guy who didn't understand why i didn't want him smoking in the back room where all the kids play. i can understand why people smoke, but why around children?Lion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-66322337237710866872008-10-23T00:46:00.000-04:002008-10-23T00:46:00.000-04:00the last couple of years we've gone away to friend...the last couple of years we've gone away to friends in teaneck and i wasn't looking forward to being stuck in brooklyn this year.<BR/><BR/>i leined a couple of times in a shul over the summer (ave. m area) that i've been davening in here and there recently.<BR/><BR/>i was there for הקפות and i can say that none of your complaints apply to this shul, with one small exception. there were 2 guys who went outside at one point for a smoke. i was a bit surprised that this would happen in this shul. <BR/><BR/>my biggest problem was that at a certain point jr wanted to go outside to play (the shul is in a school that has a humongous playground). the mrs also didn't like the הקפות because she got used to the shul we'd been going to for a while, where they let the women come down for הקפות. here she was stuck behind the מחיצה.Lion of Zionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10342299133387602141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-43451637846803186412008-10-20T17:03:00.000-04:002008-10-20T17:03:00.000-04:00to:Brooklynwolfthe suit's an inside joke,speaks to...to:Brooklynwolf<BR/><BR/>the suit's an inside joke,speaks to frame of mind,chag sameachAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-67477151286710252122008-10-20T15:53:00.000-04:002008-10-20T15:53:00.000-04:00Logic- Thank you for the compliment, we try hard w...Logic- Thank you for the compliment, we try hard with the kids. As far as leaving my shul, I like the rov. Every other shul has the same drawbacks. And I am leaving them for Yom Tov.Lakewood Falling Downhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14483392684657880997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-41298809647335776662008-10-20T14:59:00.000-04:002008-10-20T14:59:00.000-04:00LFD - You such an angry white man! Firstly, I have...LFD - You such an angry white man! Firstly, I have told you this a million times, you need to leave your shul. Period. Your list is basically what you hate about your shul. <BR/><BR/>My shul is actually turning a bit towards the direction yours is and I'm seriously considering switching. <BR/><BR/>Another thing. You must be the best parents in the world because your kids are basically untouched by the negative influences. <BR/><BR/>In my shul they smoke right outside the front door, so everytime the door opens the place smells like a cheap pool hall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-16896277021558491812008-10-20T14:17:00.000-04:002008-10-20T14:17:00.000-04:00Jacob- Gilmour and I may join you.daveningbydekois...Jacob- Gilmour and I may join you.<BR/>daveningbydekoisel-shenanigans make the world go round.<BR/>Brooklynwolf-It's a lucky guy who can enjoy a Yom Tov for what it's supposed to be- a Chag.<BR/>Tr8tergirl-Chag samayach! BTW, the best pictures are always on Shabbos and Yom Tov. My mother lin law would love to see her children in a photo by kol hanearim. Enjoy taking the baby, and make sure you get to see it!Lakewood Falling Downhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14483392684657880997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-49173907487183536902008-10-20T11:03:00.000-04:002008-10-20T11:03:00.000-04:00Boy - Im glad Im a girl and don't have to deal wit...Boy - Im glad Im a girl and don't have to deal with half those things!<BR/><BR/>"Certain shul members noticed that the gross lollipops that the shul picked out. They looked like a male’s privates with a hole in the center that squirts up goo when squeezed. Thank you Pazkes. I can’t imagine a more obscene candy, yet the Cahreidim haven’t banned it yet."<BR/><BR/>LMAO!!!<BR/><BR/>Have a good one!Tr8erGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14277587667715295954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-57241204619629391212008-10-20T10:32:00.001-04:002008-10-20T10:32:00.001-04:00Polyester suit??Polyester suit??BrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-32970633221480007432008-10-20T10:32:00.000-04:002008-10-20T10:32:00.000-04:00Wow! I guess I'm really lucky.Here's how my shul ...Wow! I guess I'm really lucky.<BR/><BR/>Here's how my shul scores on your checklist:<BR/><BR/><B>Bidding Wars</B>: None. And this is a shul that can really use the money (it's a small minyan that rents a basement). We also don't sell aliyos for the Yomim Noraim or anything else.<BR/><BR/><B>Smokers</B>: None. No one (to the best of my knowledge) goes outside to smoke.<BR/><BR/><B>Orchestration</B>: Aside from a few common piyutim that are sung (Ain Adir, etc.), it's pretty much whatever song strikes the crowd at the right time. No one tells anyone where to dance.<BR/><BR/><B>The Dancing</B>: Well, you've got me on this one. But this is the same everywhere!<BR/><BR/><B>Time</B>: Our hakafos are strictly 10-15 minutes each. No more.<BR/><BR/><B>No Real Food</B>: Since we're not there until 11:00 at night on Simchas Torah, we don't need real food. By day the rebetzzin provides food. Good food, too. :)<BR/><BR/><B>Drinking</B>: I've been at my current shul for four years. I have yet to see someone drunk.<BR/><BR/><B>Sugar Factories</B>: Yeah, the kids in my shul have all sorts of junk. So what?<BR/><BR/>Overall, I think you might like it in my shul. We pass most of the items on your checklist.<BR/><BR/>The WolfBrooklynWolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994285019137108636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-17861234240623546332008-10-19T23:19:00.000-04:002008-10-19T23:19:00.000-04:00Is that a poyester suit i smell?.....couldn't agre...Is that a poyester suit i smell?.....couldn't agree more and am also boycotting the shenanigans this year!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3353533543996420432.post-23741412697815797862008-10-19T23:16:00.000-04:002008-10-19T23:16:00.000-04:00Wow, thats a kickass post yo.First, my Shul hustle...Wow, thats a kickass post yo.<BR/><BR/>First, my Shul hustles thru the Hakafos at a reasonable pace at night. No candy, quick bidding.<BR/><BR/>Second, in honor of my joining the Shul a year ago, I will be sponsering Kugel from Flatbush Takeout during the day.<BR/><BR/>Usually, they just have a kiddush on cake and shnapps but I felt that some hot stuff would do us all good.<BR/><BR/>Finally, You're totally welcome to join us.Jacob Da Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15181930948956094882noreply@blogger.com